[Loops] Loops Workshop SOC

Vinay L. Kashyap kashyap at head.cfa.harvard.edu
Fri Jul 9 19:51:11 MDT 2010


Hello,

If someone of you are attending the SHINE conference at the end of
this month, would you like to give a brief summary of lessons learned
on the issue of loop physics at the DEM Techniques and Implications
session?

Cheers,
Vinay

 > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:55:23 +0200
 > From: Leon Golub <golub at head.cfa.harvard.edu>
 >
 > Helen,
 >
 > Nice summary. I agree with Ed that we should periodically ask ourselves 
 > whether what we're doing makes sense, and you have answered it nicely, 
 > in my opinion.
 >
 > Leon
 >
 >
 > On 7/9/2010 7:21 PM, Helen E. Mason wrote:
 > > Dear Ed and Colleagues,
 > >
 > > I think the Loops workshops have been one of the most engaging,
 > > lively and productive series of workshops which I've ever been
 > > involved with (possibly with the exception of the Skylab workshops).
 > > ...and in addition, the most fun!
 > >
 > > Why?
 > >
 > > 1) a small group of dedicated scientists with a specific
 > >   focus and goal
 > >
 > > 2) an international group, not just NASA or European based only.
 > >
 > > 3) cross-fertilisation between theory and observations (all observations:
 > >    Hinode/STEREO/SoHO/TRACE)
 > >
 > > 4) inclusion of younger scientists in a very positive and constructive 
 > > way
 > >    (Fanu spoke eloquently about this at the last workshop)
 > >
 > > 5) a good mailing list which shares information and provokes discussion
 > >
 > > I personally don't like really BIG meetings such as IAU and COSPAR.
 > >
 > > Many of the larger meetings, for example the Hinode series simply
 > > tend to be folk presenting their own work, with very little
 > > opportunity for real discussions and establishing collaborations.
 > > Nontheless, I have tried to attend all of them.
 > >
 > > I find small workshops where folk all work and socialise together
 > > much better. The tendancy in bigger meetings is for folk to
 > > stick to their own groups, to the people they already know
 > > and work with.
 > >
 > > We haven't yet solved the problem we set ourselves. If we do so
 > > in the next meeting, perhaps that should be the last. Otherwise
 > > why stop a series of workshops which has been so productive?
 > >
 > > With respect, I don't think I've seen Ed at many of the Loops
 > > meetings, although Hinode/XRT has been well represented,
 > > and as a result collaborations have been successfully established.
 > > Several XRT team members are regular participants and as a result
 > > are now working with other groups, including my own.
 > >
 > > Before signing a death warrant, I think we should see how the
 > > meeting in Spain goes, and decide there whether or not to hold
 > > another meeting.
 > >
 > > Best wishes,
 > > helen
 > >
 > > On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ed Deluca wrote:
 > >
 > >> Hi,
 > >>
 > >> Allow me to present a contrarian point of view.
 > >>
 > >> As initially conceived the loops workshops were committed to
 > >> solving a while defined, but complex science problem:
 > >> "What are the physical processes that define the structure
 > >> and evolution of coronal loops"
 > >>
 > >> Three years of observations with STEREO and Hinode (in
 > >> addition to continued supporting observations from SOHO,
 > >> TRACE and RHESSI) have provided critical observations,
 > >> models have evolved and great progress is being made.
 > >>
 > >> Given this, why are we not planning on closing down the
 > >> Loops Workshops, declaring victory and going home?
 > >>
 > >> There is a real danger in continuing to isolate the "loops
 > >> community" from the solar/heliospheric community.
 > >> We have seen this in the past with the heliosiesmology,
 > >> they spent decades talking to themselves rather then
 > >> engaging with the rest of the community. So I would
 > >> suggest the the Mallorca meeting be the final
 > >> loops workshop and that scientists reintegrate themselves
 > >> into the solar community.
 > >>
 > >> With respect,
 > >> Ed
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Klimchuk, James A. (GSFC-6710) wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>  Dear friends,
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>       Coronal Loops 5 will take place next year in Mallorca, Spain, 
 > >>> and it
 > >>>  is now time to form the Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC).  We 
 > >>> have
 > >>>  decided to make the selection of the SOC a more formal process than 
 > >>> it has
 > >>>  been in the past.  To that end, we have established bylaws for the 
 > >>> Coronal
 > >>>  Loops Workshop Series (attached).   The first step was to elect a 
 > >>> Steering
 > >>>  Committee from among the 20 founding members---those who attended 
 > >>> at least
 > >>>  3 of the first 4 workshops.  This has just been completed.  The 
 > >>> next step
 > >>>  is for the Steering Committee to elect 5 of 7 members of the SOC.  
 > >>> The new
 > >>>  SOC chair, Inaki Ugarte Urra, and past chair, Joan Schmelz, are
 > >>>  automatically members.  The purpose of this e-mail is to ask the 
 > >>> broader
 > >>>  loops community for nominees to serve on the SOC.  A slate of 
 > >>> candidates
 > >>>  will then be presented to the Steering Committee for a vote.  If 
 > >>> you would
 > >>>  like to nominate yourself or someone else, with their permission, 
 > >>> please
 > >>>  send me an e-mail at James.A.Klimchuk at nasa.gov
 > >>> <mailto:James.A.Klimchuk at nasa.gov> by the end of the day next 
 > >>> Monday, July
 > >>>  12.   Sorry for the short fuse, but there are reasons for acting 
 > >>> quickly.
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  Thanks,
 > >>>
 > >>>  Jim
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  P.S.  In Mallorca, we will discuss the bylaws and whether they 
 > >>> should be
 > >>>  modified.
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  ******************************************************************************** 
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  James A. Klimchuk
 > >>>
 > >>>  NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
 > >>>
 > >>>  Solar Physics Lab, Code 671
 > >>>
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 > >>>
 > >>>  Greenbelt, MD  20771
 > >>>
 > >>>  USA
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  Phone:  1-301-286-9060
 > >>>
 > >>>  Fax:      1-301-286-7194
 > >>>
 > >>>  E-mail:  James.A.Klimchuk at nasa.gov <mailto:James.A.Klimchuk at nasa.gov>
 > >>>
 > >>>  Home page:
 > >>>  http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/671/staff/bios/cs/James_Klimchuk_ssi.html
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  No endorsement by NASA is implied for any correspondence related to my
 > >>>  role as an officer of professional organizations (American Geophysical
 > >>>  Union, American Astronomical Society, International Astronomical 
 > >>> Union).
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>  ******************************************************************************** 
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>
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