<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Helen et al,<div><br></div><div>Congratulations to the new dazzling Hinode paper!</div><div><br></div><div>On the same note, from the statistics of some 18,000 loop widths </div><div>measurements in the 3 TRACE filters we found a slight dependence </div><div>that loops become wider (or fuzzier) with temperatures, i.e.,</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>w(T) ~ T^(1.3+/-0.7)<br></div><div><br></div><div>(see Aschwanden, Nightingale, & Boerner 2007, ApJ 656, 577).</div><div>So loops at T=2 MK are about a factor of 3 fatter than at T=1 MK.</div><div>The inferred coronal filling factors vary also slightly with temperature,</div><div>from q~0.74 at T=1 MK to q~0.32 at T=2 MK, which goes along the</div><div>lines Leon suggests.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Markus</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:08 PM, <a href="mailto:reale@astropa.unipa.it">reale@astropa.unipa.it</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I agree with Leon, but I also think that the paper only certifies that the<br>loops look fuzzier in hotter lines. There may be no real contradiction<br>with Leon's perspective. Of course, we all sustain Leon's new imager.<br>Ciao<br>Fabio<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Helen et al.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I can't let this go uncommented. Even though this paper was<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">accepted (I know, I was the editor) I disagree with the conclusion<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that hot loops are fuzzier. Yes, that's what you see, but it is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">also explainable if the hot parts of the AR have many fine threads<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(unresolved at present resolution) with a large filling factor.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">That as the conclusion Joan and I came to from analyzing 284A<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">data.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Anyway, this won't be settled until we fly an imager with higher<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">resolution. We're proposing one this year and I'm hoping we get<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the chance to clear this up, finally.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Leon<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Loops mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu">Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://mithra.physics.montana.edu/mailman/listinfo/loops">https://mithra.physics.montana.edu/mailman/listinfo/loops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Loops mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu">Loops@solar.physics.montana.edu</a><br>https://mithra.physics.montana.edu/mailman/listinfo/loops<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>____________________________________________</div><div>Dr. Markus J. 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